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    Dick Rowan

    The active drunks and druggies at clinics like Dr. Satel's are the biggest liars on the face of the earth, which is why behavioral therapy is a waste of time for them. They will say and do anything to place blame or redirect responsibility.

    For the rest of us, however, self-exploration remains the essential tool for enabling personal or societal change. I join those who argue that to know our selves is our ultimate purpose.

    Laura Young

    I agree, Dick. I've been like a pit bull with my own self-exploration and can't imagine living any other way. It takes tremendous courage and dedication to face down dragon after dragon. Not everyone is up to it and we have such poor models. In our culture of quick relief and denial of pain it's easy to be tempted to give up the work once we start to feel a bit better, which is what happens in therapy as we say things out loud. The trick is to not confuse relief with healing and true self-knowledge. Not a path for the weak of heart! And the seeking self-knowledge has to happen as an integrated process with the rest of life. It's a rare person who can escape for 10 years to a mountain top and find truth. It's not "either/ or." It's being in the confusion and the paradox and remembering to take the next step. Insight and action so often grow together.

    Carolyn Manning

    Well, Laura, what does Dr. Satel suggest to replace insight? It would appear that a person looking to change some behavior pattern necessarily needs to understand why it needs to be changed; how can understanding happen without some degree of insight? It's not a fool's errand to search for and realize the cause of a problem.

    Dick Rowan

    Great comments, Laura and Carolyn. What stands out for me in Satel's article is her revelation that positive behavioral change and sobriety are likely to go together. I say revelation because I thought this was a given. Nevertheless, there is a paradox between clear-headed, fact-based insights and action. Sometimes, knowing less is actually better.

    Peter

    I agree with Carolyn – to a degree. Insight is necessary for change – to a degree. And that degree is that it’s good to know what you are moving away from and what you are progressing toward. But beyond that knowing WHAT needs to be changed and HOW to change it is enough. The only WHY the drug addict really needs to know about kicking the habit is “because it’s killing me.”

    One of the great difficulties that therapy had during much of the 20th century was its reliance on classical psychoanalysis. While being “on the couch” might be a beneficial and fascinating (and long and expensive) exercise in self-awareness, there is nothing necessarily therapeutic about it. Which is why the various forms of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy have come to dominate the scene. I think the point that Dr. Satel and Laura are making is that understanding a problem and solving it are two very different things.

    And I don’t think that anyone is saying that self-awareness or any other kind of awareness is a bad thing. I’ve had my cathartic “A-Ha!” moments in which I realized why a certain relationship simply COULD NOT have worked, which spared me further speculation and angst – and that was a relief.

    But for true searchers like Laura, self-awareness is an end in itself – the measure of what it means to be fully human – not a practical tool for getting where one wants to go in life.

    Laura Young

    Yes, Peter. Well said. Carolyn I agree that the search is not, in itself, a fool's errand but searching with a goal of finding THE cause, THE right answer IS. As Peter suggests, it's a matter of gaining enough self-knowledge to know what needs to change and why, but endlessly drilling down without making concrete moves to reorient ones life practically can end up being like psychological fly paper.
    I've seen coaching clients get caught in this with an intense desire to know their life purpose. "Once I have discovered my purpose, THEN I'll know what to do." For myself, intensely introspective as Peter accurately notes, I can tell you honestly that I JUST pegged "purpose" for myself TWO WEEKS AGO! LOL. I'm totally serious. Maybe some day I'll write a post on that but right now I'm just grooving on the clarity and content to bask in the warm glow. It doesn't really matter if I talk about it. The fact is I am living it and doing it continually. As Peter always says, "Show, don't tell."
    It rises together, as Dick says. Get some insight, take some steps, gain more insight, keep walking.

    Carolyn Manning

    I didn't mean to imply one should drill for answers the same as one would drill for water, simply that there needs to be a jumping off point. An 'Aha, this is killing me' as Dick put it, is sufficient. It's true that getting stuck in the WHY can turn into a tail-chasing event; no argument there.

    Maybe I'm reading something that Dr. Satel didn't say.

    Dr. Hal

    Dr. Sally Satel made a very strong and enlightening statement: "It is time to retire the myth that insight is a prerequisite for change". When I graduated with my degree in clinical psychology, I really believed that insight was necessary for lasting changes in people's lives. Although I've never identified the need for insight prior to change as a myth, I believe insight is not a prerequisite for change. It has been my experience that insight is the result of the success rather than the cause.

    Painful dissatisfaction in living and a healthy desire for self-actualization are the prerequisites for change from my perspective rather than insight. When I focus on developing insight with my clients, I encourage my clients to look forward rather than backward. I want my clients to have insight into the consequences of their dysfunctional behavior and the benefits for changing their lives rather than developing insight into the causes of their dissatisfaction.

    Andy

    Thanks for submitting this post to the Carnival of Thoughtful Consideration. I started writing a comment and realized that you had started me thinking enough that I'm going to make it a full-blown post instead. Great work!

    Laura Young

    Thanks Andy. Do us a favor and trackback here when you do so we can see where you go with this. I'm anxious to see your expanded thoughts on the topic.
    L

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